I'm turning 25 in 3 months and I now hate Tumblr, DeviantArt, Discord, and Facebook in particular. I thought social media was fun, but now, I'm sticking to Side7 and nothing else. How about you?
The only one I would truly complain about is one I am known to have said a few words about on here, an art site called Inkblot. For the sake of respecting the wishes of peace here, I'll be as subjective and non-anecdotal as possible, except to say as a neutral statement that the place developed some game-changingly bad infrastructure after I left. I'm not saying this for the displeasure, it really just is like the Sonic 06 of art venues. And Sonic 06 was a good game if you took out the gameplay.
Twitter.
Twitter, Bluesky (which I find to be worse, and that says a lot), and TikTok (which is no longer banhammered here in the US for the time being).
I could complain about Deviantart or sites I've never used like Twitter, Bluesky and other... But I think I'll rather talk about Artfol from my own experience.
I don't hate this site/app, but the last time I tried to fully use it, I seriously started considering to abandon it. First off, I don't like submitting my art in there at all. Everything I post on Artfol get's burried down. Only thing Artfol has to offer are folders, groups and reshare feature. There's nothing else of it. The searching is clunky, the 'recent' tag sometimes work sometimes doesn't and you can't even click on #tags in the artwork decription.
You can't add images to posts, you can't submit gifs, you can't make embeds, you can't customise text and you still can't put over five tags per upload and you still can't view your favorites on the site version of it. There is nothing else to do in the site or app. Devs claimed that the site's performance has improved despite both site and the app keep crashing for me and refusing to load images properly, sometimes at all, and it offtenly gets me logged out at random.
As for the community, I'll just say that it feels like an echo chamber.
There are rummors that Artfol will be shutting down soon, tho I've never found an official clarification for that. What I do know is that Artfol is indeed financially struggling lately and I can understand that since the app is carried by only two people.
I tried Artfol a few years ago but I couldn't get into it and didn't make more than 2 posts.
As for the community, I'll just say that it feels like an echo chamber.
I'm curious on what the community on there is like, what do you mean by this?
here's mine:
- let started from HTFSocial(where at first, I thought this was HTF Fansite meets Social media platform until when I joined it, I finds out it's social media equivalent of Encyclopedia Dramatica, even when many of it's so-called regs moves on from this and tried their best to become better people back then)
- then Deviantart(this website went downhill so hard, starting from the company plagiarized russian train company logo in late 2014, then rebrands it's premium membership into Core membership(that's more expensive and has less features) and ever since it being bought into Wix(around the time I got bullied by someone from Hungary that uses Rationalwiki and (maybe) Kiwifarms), it's become just as toxic as above in this list, even just before Eclipse's permanence. worse there's people that's too close-minded to even looks forward deviantart alternatives(at least other than Furaffinity and Artstation) so they ended up stuck in this website was the sole reason this still online)
- any of Meta(rebrand of Facebook) platforms(I use Facebook mostly just to keep touch with IRL friends, Instagram has forced cropping and I got insufficient visibility problems, and I gives up Threads) where standard versions of it's mobile apps uses too much storage in any mobile devices
- Twitter(even shortly before Elon Musk ruined it, it's already toxic)
- Reddit(it's toxic enough to be banned in Indonesia, and it's posts are tends to be top results of Google searches)
- Inkblot(I gives up inkblot for it's bugs, and regretably entered my mobile phone numbers there)
- Artstation(it's support of AI arts, and bit too professional for me)
- Bluesky(if this doesn't repeat the mistakes of Pre-Elon Musk twitter, this platform can be fine)
- Fanfiction.net(it's worse victim for the dead internet thingy and it's fanfics are tends to have boring Plots)
- youtube(it's buyout by google did started out the Dead Internet Theory(before Wix' buyout of deviantart) and codifies big tech's hypocritical views on copyright laws(you can make money with AI-generated slop, but you can't do even fanarts or fanfics of any IPs outside public domain ones for absolutely anything, even not for making money) and I also have visibility problems here)
- Tumblr(it's silent)
- Pinterest(my complains with this lies on favorite pins filter option are mobile-only)
many of (mainstream) social media platforms can promote ungratefulness from pushing metric-chasings
I don't hate this site/app, but the last time I tried to fully use it, I seriously started considering to abandon it. First off, I don't like submitting my art in there at all. Everything I post on Artfol get's burried down. Only thing Artfol has to offer are folders, groups and reshare feature. There's nothing else of it. The searching is clunky, the 'recent' tag sometimes work sometimes doesn't and you can't even click on #tags in the artwork decription.
You can't add images to posts, you can't submit gifs, you can't make embeds, you can't customise text and you still can't put over five tags per upload and you still can't view your favorites on the site version of it. There is nothing else to do in the site or app. Devs claimed that the site's performance has improved despite both site and the app keep crashing for me and refusing to load images properly, sometimes at all, and it offtenly gets me logged out at random.
There are rummors that Artfol will be shutting down soon, tho I've never found an official clarification for that. What I do know is that Artfol is indeed financially struggling lately and I can understand that since the app is carried by only two people.
Agreed, somewhat
X. The hate, homophobia/transphobia, misogyny, racism etc. on there is unbelievable.
here's mine:
- let started from HTFSocial(where at first, I thought this was HTF Fansite meets Social media platform until when I joined it, I finds out it's social media equivalent of Encyclopedia Dramatica, even when many of it's so-called regs moves on from this and tried their best to become better people back then)
- then Deviantart(this website went downhill so hard, starting from the company plagiarized russian train company logo in late 2014, then rebrands it's premium membership into Core membership(that's more expensive and has less features) and ever since it being bought into Wix(around the time I got bullied by someone from Hungary that uses Rationalwiki and (maybe) Kiwifarms), it's become just as toxic as above in this list, even just before Eclipse's permanence. worse there's people that's too close-minded to even looks forward deviantart alternatives(at least other than Furaffinity and Artstation) so they ended up stuck in this website was the sole reason this still online)
- any of Meta(rebrand of Facebook) platforms(I use Facebook mostly just to keep touch with IRL friends, Instagram has forced cropping and I got insufficient visibility problems, and I gives up Threads) where standard versions of it's mobile apps uses too much storage in any mobile devices
- Twitter(even shortly before Elon Musk ruined it, it's already toxic)
- Reddit(it's toxic enough to be banned in Indonesia, and it's posts are tends to be top results of Google searches)
- Inkblot(I gives up inkblot for it's bugs, and regretably entered my mobile phone numbers there)
- Artstation(it's support of AI arts, and bit too professional for me)
- Bluesky(if this doesn't repeat the mistakes of Pre-Elon Musk twitter, this platform can be fine)
- Fanfiction.net(it's worse victim for the dead internet thingy and it's fanfics are tends to have boring Plots)
- youtube(it's buyout by google did started out the Dead Internet Theory(before Wix' buyout of deviantart) and codifies big tech's hypocritical views on copyright laws(you can make money with AI-generated slop, but you can't do even fanarts or fanfics of any IPs outside public domain ones for absolutely anything, even not for making money) and I also have visibility problems here)
- Tumblr(it's silent)
- Pinterest(my complains with this lies on favorite pins filter option are mobile-only)
many of (mainstream) social media platforms can promote ungratefulness from pushing metric-chasings
Makes me tempted to recommend the fediverse to you. There would be so much going for that here (speaking as the top mod).
I would caution to everyone against being too eager to censure. The number one contributor to the demise of a good community, especially ones that serve as safe spaces, even when it's small (ahem), is what it's unwilling to leave behind.
here's mine:
- let started from HTFSocial(where at first, I thought this was HTF Fansite meets Social media platform until when I joined it, I finds out it's social media equivalent of Encyclopedia Dramatica, even when many of it's so-called regs moves on from this and tried their best to become better people back then)
- then Deviantart(this website went downhill so hard, starting from the company plagiarized russian train company logo in late 2014, then rebrands it's premium membership into Core membership(that's more expensive and has less features) and ever since it being bought into Wix(around the time I got bullied by someone from Hungary that uses Rationalwiki and (maybe) Kiwifarms), it's become just as toxic as above in this list, even just before Eclipse's permanence. worse there's people that's too close-minded to even looks forward deviantart alternatives(at least other than Furaffinity and Artstation) so they ended up stuck in this website was the sole reason this still online)
- any of Meta(rebrand of Facebook) platforms(I use Facebook mostly just to keep touch with IRL friends, Instagram has forced cropping and I got insufficient visibility problems, and I gives up Threads) where standard versions of it's mobile apps uses too much storage in any mobile devices
- Twitter(even shortly before Elon Musk ruined it, it's already toxic)
- Reddit(it's toxic enough to be banned in Indonesia, and it's posts are tends to be top results of Google searches)
- Inkblot(I gives up inkblot for it's bugs, and regretably entered my mobile phone numbers there)
- Artstation(it's support of AI arts, and bit too professional for me)
- Bluesky(if this doesn't repeat the mistakes of Pre-Elon Musk twitter, this platform can be fine)
- Fanfiction.net(it's worse victim for the dead internet thingy and it's fanfics are tends to have boring Plots)
- youtube(it's buyout by google did started out the Dead Internet Theory(before Wix' buyout of deviantart) and codifies big tech's hypocritical views on copyright laws(you can make money with AI-generated slop, but you can't do even fanarts or fanfics of any IPs outside public domain ones for absolutely anything, even not for making money) and I also have visibility problems here)
- Tumblr(it's silent)
- Pinterest(my complains with this lies on favorite pins filter option are mobile-only)
many of (mainstream) social media platforms can promote ungratefulness from pushing metric-chasings
Makes me tempted to recommend the fediverse to you. There would be so much going for that here (speaking as the top mod).
I would caution to everyone against being too eager to censure. The number one contributor to the demise of a good community, especially ones that serve as safe spaces, even when it's small (ahem), is what it's unwilling to leave behind.
speaking of Fediverse, I gone with it's reddit alternative known as lemmy
I'm curious on what the community on there is like, what do you mean by this?
There were some aspects in there that made me less attached to it. That's all I can say.
>Artstation and AI
In means of content production for games, vfx and animation - which are the main purposes of an ArtStation portfolio and the platform it provides; AI is now more or less the one tool that extends human capabilities and makes large scale productions feasible to fit within a budget. It is not so much they accept AI art like, for example, DeviantART where it is the entire concept of a production. It is a different beast. Time is money and so on. The concept of painting thousands of textures by hand is not the future. Even if you showcase your concept that you used AI tools to create, you will be working pretty hard to keep a job in the industry. It wouldn't work very well if you didn't have enough skills to work without said tools professionally. Any idiot can generate AI art and no studio would pay for that alone.
Though in my opinion - they (as in the artists) should be very careful to state wether or not AI tools were used for creating the content they sell. Especially in their marketplace.
I don't personally want to source potential content the creator didn't make themselves to begin with.
Despite its name, ArtStation isn't really an art site in the way for example Side7 is. You do have a few hobbyists there, but it is a pretty niche area of intrest in that community.
Honestly, my least favorite is and always will be Tiktok. I've heard so many terrible things about Tiktok, and it's hard for me to talk about it to my high school friends and mutuals because they LOVE Tiktok. But after every horrifying story I hear on that site, plus the fact that I heard people ACTUALLY CALLED 911 over its 14h ban, I'm thinking, jeez... maybe it should have STAYED banned... look at how badly it's affecting Gen Z and Alpha to the point where they think THAT is acceptable. The people calling 911 is just the tip of the iceberg too, but I'm not gonna get into it because a lot of it's pretty disturbing, plus I've ranted enough as it is.
Plus, back when I was on DA, someone stole my art and put it on a Tiktok (which, at least it was eventually taken down)... so yeah, least favorite hands down. Vine was so much better imo.
Honestly, my least favorite is and always will be Tiktok. I've heard so many terrible things about Tiktok, and it's hard for me to talk about it to my high school friends and mutuals because they LOVE Tiktok. But after every horrifying story I hear on that site, plus the fact that I heard people ACTUALLY CALLED 911 over its 14h ban, I'm thinking, jeez... maybe it should have STAYED banned... look at how badly it's affecting Gen Z and Alpha to the point where they think THAT is acceptable. The people calling 911 is just the tip of the iceberg too, but I'm not gonna get into it because a lot of it's pretty disturbing, plus I've ranted enough as it is.
Plus, back when I was on DA, someone stole my art and put it on a Tiktok (which, at least it was eventually taken down)... so yeah, least favorite hands down. Vine was so much better imo.
...even when Vine was one of abandoned social media platforms